acmx6804

Like the REM song IT`S THE END OF THE WORLD AS WE KNOW IT, but i don`t feel fine ! 

ZWIC

 People with your attitude make me sick to my stomach. My wife and I both make about $12 an hour and we do just fine. Have a two year old car, insurance, two bedroom apartment and a young baby and we never want for food on our table because we both work hard. We save money by working opposite shifts so we don't have to pay for day care. We do things but don't waste money needlessly.

Have some pride, if you can find a job making anything take it and quit living off of others. If you want to make more instead of laying in bed feeling sorry for yourself go get more education and better yourself. My wife and I our both working on our education so that we can get jobs in fields that are doing quite well. Americans have to quit spending their life looking for a handout from others and get back to a day when if you wanted something you worked for it. I could go on for hours about governments role but it basically boils down to their job is to fight crime, keep our borders safe and help educate. Nothing more.

  When the ultra rich, wall street, and corporate America has done everyting they can do to destroy the working class where else are they supposed to go? They have outsourced so many of our jobs in the name of corporate greed there isn't anywhere we can turn. I have been out of work since August, we are lucky enough that my wife makes great money. The jobs that are out there pay a little more than half of what I am used to making. With all the foreign workers and lack of jobs driving down my wages it just isn't worth it for me to go to work. I am a controls electrician who was making $20 an hour, now I'd be lucky to get $12 an hour. By the time I pay day care, taxes, FOC, and driving expenses I'm luck to come out even. It's cheeper for me to collect unemployment. I got 9 weeks of unemployement then another 24 week extension, after that, we live off the money my wife makes till I can find a job that pays me enough money to make it worth my while to get out of bed. As long as my country lets greed get in the way of a fair living I will leach every cent they offer! The best part is we don't need the cash, like I said my wife makes great money.

  Oh and if you drive a foreign car I hope you get in an accident!!!!!

 You cannot legislate the poor into freedom by legislating the wealthy out of freedom.

OK, so using this logic, taxation = loss of freedom.  Right?  I mean, he's saying that taking money away from people is taking away their freedom.

So with any taxation at all we are not living in a free society?

Just trying to figure out the syllogism, and if everyone here agrees with its conclusion, then I'd love to hear some theories on how it can be accomplished without complete chaos and disorder.  Because I don't see how we can pay for all of our homeland security, armed forces, wars aborad, domestic law enforcement, border patrols, TSA screeners, secret service, FBI, CIA, Justice System, et al....without tax dollars.

Sure we'd all love to take home 100% of our paychecks, but how?  The monster needs to be fed.  And the monster isn't solely the creation of liberals, I hate to break it to ya'.

 I have a copy of Dr. Rogers' quote hanging in my office. Not that it would do any good, but I'd love to see that message plastered on multiple billboards throughout the Washington D.C. area.

That would be cool!  Or even posting Jefferson quotes, I would love to see how long it would go without someone claiming their rights were violated in some way.  It would almost be funny.

That the leaves of the liberty tree are getting mighty dry and brittle.  The 2010 and 2012 elections may provide the "water" that's desperately needed to reverse the present course. I just pray that the tree survives 'til then.

Amen to that!

acmx... I have a copy of Dr. Rogers' quote hanging in my office. Not that it would do any good, but I'd love to see that message plastered on multiple billboards throughout the Washington D.C. area.

And Cat posted a quote from Thomas Jefferson. Here are a couple more that are attributed to him...

"A government big enough to give you everything you want is strong enough to take everything you have."

"From time to time, the tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots."

Wise observations from a wise man. I wonder... Would our founders openly weep if they could see where this once great country seems determined to go? Pehaps, but I'd also like to think that they'd quickly point out the obvious... That the leaves of the liberty tree are getting mighty dry and brittle.

The 2010 and 2012 elections may provide the "water" that's desperately needed to reverse the present course. I just pray that the tree survives 'til then.  

I have a good friend who owns her own small daycare. She works 60-70 hours per week, gets taxed to death by the state, and has no health insurance of any kind because she can't afford it. Her total income was around $11,000 last year.(Think about how much you pay in bills--rent, utilities, food, gas, healthcare-- every month...then try to stretch $11,000 into covering 12 months.) It's absolutely sick to think that if she sat on her butt and did nothing it would improve her situation. It infuriates me that the government does nothing to help those who are working so hard, yet coddles those people who are leeches on society.

I could not agree with you more.  I'm sure the government means well but it seams that with every new law passed to help us, more people are hurt financially... and now they are starting to talk about univeral healthcare again.  We are going to have to take over several rich countries to pay for some of this.  I think we need to drasticly reduce the term limits of our law makers in congress... it's a start.

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There are those individuals who may need government assistance--and accept it begrudgingly--due to circumstances beyond their control. There are a lot of good people who have recently been laid off that may need some help. Those are not the people to whom Jefferson was referring, because, if given the opportunity, those folks would be at a job and earning their own way.They don't like getting government assistance, and they do everything they can to re-establish their financial independence. I have no problem with folks like that getting help when they need it.

On the other hand, there is a growing segment of the population that not only expects, but demands, that the government care for them. They have no desire to work, and seem to take pride in getting paid for doing nothing. .....then gripe and complain that what they're getting isn't good enough. It's for people like that that the goverment needs to shut down the gravy train.

I have a good friend who owns her own small daycare. She works 60-70 hours per week, gets taxed to death by the state, and has no health insurance of any kind because she can't afford it. Her total income was around $11,000 last year.(Think about how much you pay in bills--rent, utilities, food, gas, healthcare-- every month...then try to stretch $11,000 into covering 12 months.) It's absolutely sick to think that if she sat on her butt and did nothing it would improve her situation. It infuriates me that the government does nothing to help those who are working so hard, yet coddles those people who are leeches on society.

It's the liberal mentality run a muck!  They love to take money from the "rich" yet have no clue as to how it effects the overall economy.  I love that most of the politicians are former attorneys, and now are economic experts (having never had to run a business) it's wonderfull having such great minds tinkering with our lives!